I’m sorry I missed it, but apparently Kirk Cameron (child star in Growing Pains) and his evangelist friend Ray Comfort pledged to prove the existence of God, indisputably:
“We’d like to show you that the existence of God can be proven, 100 percent, absolutely, without the use of faith… the number one reason that people don’t believe in God is not a lack in evidence, but because of a theory that many scientists today believe to be a fairytale for grownups.” (see Does God Exist? The Nightline Face-Off)
Their evidence was the classical Teleological (argument-by-design) and a few other standard raps, which are decent arguments, and their presentation sounds reasonable enough, but it was more inductive logic, not deductive. You can’t claim 100% proof through inductive logic.
They also have a few (irrational) quirks:
“On the Day of Judgment,” Comfort tells one man on the streets of New York, “God will see you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. You have sinned against God. You need his forgiveness.
And then they get persecuted:
On occasions, things go badly wrong and the pair are attacked by members of the public… “While I was preaching the Gospel a gentleman came up and he started spitting on me. And he spat quite a few times.” Comfort says he simply remained calm and moved on.
It seems to me there’s room for a little healthy Christian-to-Christian criticism here, because Paul says to “let your words be seasoned, as it were, with grace…so you know how to make an appropriate response to everyone.” To yell out in NYC insults like “lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart” seems very unseasoned with grace — even if it is NYC!
But as acerbic as those Christians sounded, they didn’t spit out rhetorical heat like the “Rational Response Squad” and that Brief Informercial on…Disbelief I wrote about. Those clowns are pretty derogatory towards people of other beliefs. For example, in their own words:
“The Rational Response Squad was formed to respond to irrational claims, and the most wildly held irrational claim are the ones offered by religion.”
So they dump me and any Christian into a little slop-bucket marked “religion,” dismissed as “wildly…irrational.” Jeesh…what “wildly irrational” rhetoric! Maybe the “Rational Response Squad” should drop the pretense and call themselves the Emotional Response Squad. The Teleological argument isn’t “wildly irrational,” even if they object to it.
The sneering, insulting tone is quite pronounced throughout their presentation:”You pray for me, and I’ll think for me!” the Emotional Response Squad hurled at the Christians amidst great applause. Oooooo. Dissss!
I’m sorry, but they seemed quite intolerant towards other beliefs.
The New Atheist Agnostics
It was amusing to watch the squirming when it came their turn to prove their point: “I’m not going to prove atheism, but I am going to prove [the Christian’s] arguments are wrong…” was the opening statement.
As usual, it’s always easier to throw stones than build a house.
An atheist (or, “DIS-belief” as they call it) is a dogmatic position. I am astonished at how arbitrary they are claiming theirs is the only position on earth which requires no proof. I mean, isn’t it obvious that disproving Christianity still proves nothing about God’s existence? If the atheist dismantles ancient Greek myths, it only means ancient Greek myths are wrong. You can’t jump straight from that to atheism! This is why atheism is a leap of faith: it’s a leap from point A to point B without any bridging logic.
Then it hits me: they think they’re agnostics! An agnostic (which means “I don’t know”) would be a non-belief that requires no proof. How silly it would be to prove that you don’t know!
But atheism is a belief, not a non-belief. Atheism claims “I do know! Fo Sho! Ain’t no God! Ain’t no way!” Yeah OK, maybe they know something, but what is it? (I think it’s called “Blind Faith” to be unconcerned about proving your position.)
Atheism is a “Mystery Religion” and the mystery is how they absolutely know God doesn’t exist. Do we know 90% of the knowledge in the universe? No…but maybe 70% or 50% or 20% or maybe just 5% of the knowledge of the universe we know. Is it not possible in our vast ocean of 95% ignorance about the universe there may be proof for God?
Once-upon-a-time people were equally dogmatic that the earth was flat, but they just didn’t know that much after all…!
Don’t ever let someone call themselves an atheist and pretend to be non-religious! And in my humble opinion, I think the epitome of irrational, unreasonable nonsense is an Atheist acting like an Agnostic.
Sometimes I wonder if it’s at all possible to hold a sensible conversation anymore about God. “Why do the nations rage?” is a good question.
- A Brief Infomercial on Disbelief
- ‘Atheist Organization Denounces Christian Freedom’